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  • jimmy_coleman 1 year ago

    It wouldn’t be possible for Pinterest to function without those terms.

    • terryheick 1 year ago

       @jimmy_coleman exactly. the site is terrific and the terms are there for a reason…but that doesn’t mean you have to use it. it’s simply a ‘use at your own risk’ message every user should be aware of.

  • Ian Goh 1 year ago

    It does not seem any more onerous than any other content-sharing site post-DMCA. Basically, the site doesn’t want any liability for copyright infringement on the part of the users who are uploading. Is there more to it?

    • terryheick 1 year ago

      That and they take extra actions like inviting copyright holders and adding in extra bits in the T&C that state they’ll basically re-sue you after your initial lawsuit finishes. Overall, this article serves as just a a wake-up call for all these kinds of popular sites.

  • cantyoucook 1 year ago

    Wow, really great article, I’m so glad you shared! I LOVE Pinterest and very often pin from other websites. Something I guess I need to watch out for now

  • I’m not overly worried by this, and I do admit that I rarely read the small print in the terms and conditions on sites either.
     
    I can’t see anything different here to other sites where people add content, Twitter, Digg, Stumbleupon to name a few, or Squidoo, Hubpages etc where people write articles.
     
    It’s only right that Pinterest declare that they can’t be held liable for the content that members put on their site, but like any other decent site they have the power to monitor usage and to terminate members accounts/content where the rules are being abused.
     
    Another point is that the images on Pinterest itself are low quality thumbnails, which are very often permitted, unlike the full size high quality originals.
     
    It will be interesting to see where this leads, but really I see Pinterest mainly as a “prettier” version of other social bookmarking sites.

    • terryheick 1 year ago

       @poddys Great point(s)! It’s definitely ‘prettier’ and very similar to all other popular sites. I’m using this as a wake up call to actually read the terms from here on out.

  • anond 1 year ago

    I think it’s a bit funny: reading Pinterest’s terms and conditions enlightened you to the idea that you can’t always cut and paste someone else’s work onto another website. In your post about this, you cut and pasted someone else’s work onto your website.

  • angelawatson 1 year ago

    I’m a huge fan of Pinterest! I use it to collect and share all sorts of classroom management ideas (http://pinterest.com/angela_watson/).
     
    I do have some concerns about the copyright issues you mention. You may want to check out this article by Laura Candler to see how some of us in education are using Pinterest in ways that we believe help with that–it’s called Permission to Pin. http://corkboardconnections.blogspot.com/2012/03/permission-to-pin-revisited.html
     
     

  • stevemidgley 1 year ago

    I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Pinterest’s ToS is only somewhat more explicit but no different YouTube or many other sites. If you cancel your account here you might as well commit WWW suicide and pull your accounts from ALL peer/sharing sites.
     
    For reference here are the operative/equivalent terms on Youtube’s ToS (http://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms):
     
    6.D.You further agree that Content you submit to the Service will not contain third party copyrighted material, or material that is subject to other third party proprietary rights, unless you have permission from the rightful owner of the material or you are otherwise legally entitled to post the material and to grant YouTube all of the license rights granted herein.
     
    11. Indemnity
    To the extent permitted by applicable law, you agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless YouTube, its parent corporation, officers, directors, employees and agents, from and against any and all claims, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to attorney’s fees) arising from: (i) your use of and access to the Service; (ii) your violation of any term of these Terms of Service; (iii) your violation of any third party right, including without limitation any copyright, property, or privacy right; or (iv) any claim that your Content caused damage to a third party. This defense and indemnification obligation will survive these Terms of Service and your use of the Service.

    • Helenbeee 11 months ago

      I wouldnt worry………………….if you are pinning correctly and crediting/linking or using the appropriate embedding tags you seriously have nothing to worry about. It is a standard now for developers of online content to setup sites so content cant be pinned if the client is against it.
      So an assumption can be made now that if the content is ‘pinnable’ then that means the author of the site that you are pinning from is consenting to that form of use.
      Everyone has some level of responsibility to contributing content to the online community be it user, provider, developer. The fact that the photographer puts his work online or making it public and does not take reasonable steps to protect his content from ALL types of use and activity is in fact not taking reasonable measures to protect his IP.
      As for Pinterest trying to step away from ANY responsibility AND assuming victim status is hilarious and futile would not stand in law court.
      As we know from cases such as youtube the providers of the service therefore the platform that the banned activity takes place also have a level of responsibility. Unless you defied the terms of use and abused the service (absolutely read terms of uses carefully) it can be argues that pinterest encouraged and allowed activity to happen therefore failed in their duty to monitor the activity on the service they provided.
      So pin away just pin from the sites of origin in otherwords do not pin screen grabs if a site has activated no pinning code on their site and you are following the recommended terms of use.
      As this is a new development in terms of internet use there are no real legal precedence and until someone violates its so badly that it becomes a public issue there will be like all the other new services a wait and see approach which takes years before anything legally specific to that form of use will be developed and implemented. Look at music/movie download.
      i am a web designer/developer and I discuss all social media copyright/security issues with my clients I also teach ethics, copyright and security in IT and this is taught to future developers.

      Good post though for opening up discussion on these issues. :)

      • Helenbeee 11 months ago

        PS: One important factor I forgot to mention and that is if you are linking to the source then you are being transparent ie providing a connection to the original source and therefore are not claiming the content as your own. This is the main issue with copyright deception and ownership.

        cheers!

  • It makes sense, without these terms Pinterest wouldn’t exist, just like a lot of other sharing and bookmarking sites.

  • Helenbeee 11 months ago

    PS: One important factor I forgot to mention and that is if you are linking to the source then you are being transparent ie providing a connection to the original source and therefore are not claiming the content as your own. This is the main issue with copyright deception and ownership.

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  • Robin Thomas 5 months ago

    More than two days back, when I tried logging to my Pinterest account, I find the error that “Oops! Your account has been deactivated, but your pins are safe and sound.Please contact Support and we’ll get you pinning again soon.”

    I tried the Support with no response so far, and when checked the support yesterday to create one more ticket, it says “You have been suspended from this account. You are not allowed to submit requests at this time.” Now I cant even get to the Support.

    They never stated any reasons why they suspended my account, and nor did they have the courtesy of giving an explanation to me. Pinterest was the only social network that I ever liked, and they have now thrown me out for no reasons.

    I dont understand what they call as spamming. I have never posted an affiliate link before, and all my pins are informative and does match my boards. I was even getting a couple of board invitations from some big boards. I read in some blog posts about people buying Pinterest accounts, and I was shocked to see that they are indeed cheap! Some are selling it for as cheap as $10 for 100 Pinterest accounts! They are not getting removed for those spam accounts, and Pinterest is deactivating real accounts like mine in their action against “Spamming”. Where are they headed ?

    Could someone kindly get me back to pinning ?

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